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Blue Hen
08-11-2007, 08:41 PM
Anybody have any alternative meaning of these initials ??

for example :

Bogus Cartel Syndicate
Bull$hit Championship System
Big Conference Showbusiness
Bowl Championship Superficialness

CJHawkeyes
08-11-2007, 11:03 PM
Anybody have any alternative meaning of these initials ??

for example :

Bogus Cartel Syndicate
Bull$hit Championship System
Big Conference Showbusiness
Bowl Championship Superficialness

Big Cash System
Blind Competition System
Bling>Competition System
(score)Board<Checks System
Bonds-like Cheating System

I've run out of lame ones.:D

Hubbs
08-12-2007, 12:06 PM
its about worth as much as one, anyway.

aufan59
08-12-2007, 07:11 PM
bigboys competing selectively.

Don
08-12-2007, 10:06 PM
a decent overall schedule rated anywhere near the top 25.

CJHawkeyes
08-13-2007, 01:17 AM
a decent overall schedule rated anywhere near the top 25.

It's Boise State's fault that hosting a I-AA opponent is worth to a BCS school than playing the Broncos?

aufan59
08-13-2007, 03:27 AM
It's Boise State's fault that hosting a I-AA opponent is worth to a BCS school than playing the Broncos?

How so? How does hosting an I-AA school bring it more money than hosting Boise State?

I would say refusing a one game deal and insisting on a home and home is in fact Boise State's fault.

Blue Hen
08-13-2007, 07:41 AM
I think that's what Urban Meyer, or some CF notable called it in 2004.......but I think he used "baloney and cheese sandwich"

CJHawkeyes
08-13-2007, 12:26 PM
How so? How does hosting an I-AA school bring it more money than hosting Boise State?

I would say refusing a one game deal and insisting on a home and home is in fact Boise State's fault.


For starters, I would imagine Auburn (for example) would sell out whether it schedules a I-AA opponent or Boise State. As far as the BCS formula is concerned, the incentive to play Boise State over a I-AA team is unknowable and almost certainly insignificant. After all, two major unbeatens are virtually guaranteed a top two spot. Furthermore, Boise State and other nonBCS schools have fans too. Why should those fans be limited to five home games in order to accomodate a BCS school's demand to play seven to eight home games? Basically, BCS schools have all the leverage as they make just as much money playing a I-AA opponent as they would Boise State and the latter's greater value compared to the former is minimal at best. Under the rules I favor, playing Boise State anywhere would be more desirable than hosting a I-AA opponent which is precisely why BCS schools would oppose such rules. Right now, BCS schools get to have their cake and eat it too. Either Boise State plays at the BCS school or a I-AA opponent does. Makes no difference to the BCS school. Ironically, whatever blame lies with Boise State is due to money too. With easier access to the BCS, nonBCS schools have a disincentive to play the "required" schedule for national championship consideration. Why load up on BCS giants in pursuit of a disputed title when an unbeaten season versus a "weak" schedule makes more sense financially? As is always the case with this sport, money is more important than genuine competition.

aufan59
08-13-2007, 02:12 PM
Auburn's last I-AA opponent, The Citadel, had 76,302 people in attendance. The 3 bad OOC games that year averaged almost 10k less than the conference games. I'm also pretty sure that there is money to be made by have a national TV worthy game, but I'm not sure exactly how it works.

There is definitely more money to be made by playing Boise State than The Citadel.

As for not being fair, I guess that is the path from I-AA to I-A.

CJHawkeyes
08-13-2007, 03:19 PM
Auburn's last I-AA opponent, The Citadel, had 76,302 people in attendance. The 3 bad OOC games that year averaged almost 10k less than the conference games. I'm also pretty sure that there is money to be made by have a national TV worthy game, but I'm not sure exactly how it works.

There is definitely more money to be made by playing Boise State than The Citadel.

As for not being fair, I guess that is the path from I-AA to I-A.

If that is the case, wouldn't BCS teams be begging Boise State for a game? I'm guessing The Citadel comes cheaper than Boise State too. Nevertheless, it is rather sad that games are agreed to for monetary reasons rather than competitive reasons.

Blue Hen
08-13-2007, 05:56 PM
Western Kentucky was Auburn's last 1AA opponent

aufan59
08-13-2007, 06:41 PM
I was going off of ESPN.com which lists them as an I-A independent. The point remains the same though.

Blue Hen
08-13-2007, 07:03 PM
AU played WKU in 05 when it was full fledged 1AA. It's in transition now.

Don
08-13-2007, 08:27 PM
For starters, I would imagine Auburn (for example) would sell out whether it schedules a I-AA opponent or Boise State. As far as the BCS formula is concerned, the incentive to play Boise State over a I-AA team is unknowable and almost certainly insignificant. After all, two major unbeatens are virtually guaranteed a top two spot. Furthermore, Boise State and other nonBCS schools have fans too. Why should those fans be limited to five home games in order to accomodate a BCS school's demand to play seven to eight home games? Basically, BCS schools have all the leverage as they make just as much money playing a I-AA opponent as they would Boise State and the latter's greater value compared to the former is minimal at best. Under the rules I favor, playing Boise State anywhere would be more desirable than hosting a I-AA opponent which is precisely why BCS schools would oppose such rules. Right now, BCS schools get to have their cake and eat it too. Either Boise State plays at the BCS school or a I-AA opponent does. Makes no difference to the BCS school. Ironically, whatever blame lies with Boise State is due to money too. With easier access to the BCS, nonBCS schools have a disincentive to play the "required" schedule for national championship consideration. Why load up on BCS giants in pursuit of a disputed title when an unbeaten season versus a "weak" schedule makes more sense financially? As is always the case with this sport, money is more important than genuine competition.

BSU has opted for 7 home games and scheduled Weber State. Screw 'em. Most BCS schools CAN schedule a Weber State because their IN-conference games are good enough. That is a luxury that BSU can't afford. Their IN-conference schedule is so poor BSU MUST schedule decent teams or forget any NC hopes.

Don
08-13-2007, 08:57 PM
Auburn's last I-AA opponent, The Citadel, had 76,302 people in attendance. The 3 bad OOC games that year averaged almost 10k less than the conference games. I'm also pretty sure that there is money to be made by have a national TV worthy game, but I'm not sure exactly how it works.

There is definitely more money to be made by playing Boise State than The Citadel.

As for not being fair, I guess that is the path from I-AA to I-A.

The attendances for the 3 non-major teams UF played at home last year were:

So. Miss 90,043
UCF 90,210
Western Carolina 90,233 (1AA played Nov.11)

The attendances for the 4 major teams UF played at home last year were:

Kentucky 90,292
Bama 90,671
LSU 90,714
South Carolina 90,703

That's an average difference of 433, not a significant difference.

Blue Hen
08-14-2007, 08:52 AM
Common knowledge, Don, common knowledge. SEC fans are non-discriminating.