FOX Sports Article On Spurrier

[tigercpa]

http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/Lisa%20H/2008/03/25/Steve_Spurrier_losing_it

This makes the 82nd incident / arrest under Spurrier's 3 year watch.

Your thoughts?

["14-O" U.]

http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/Lisa%20H/2008/03/25/Steve_Spurrier_losing_it

This makes the 82nd incident / arrest under Spurrier's 3 year watch.

Your thoughts?

82 is a lot. I wonder if he's in line for the Penn State job when someone declares JoePa legally dead?

[Don]

http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/Lisa%20H/2008/03/25/Steve_Spurrier_losing_it

This makes the 82nd incident / arrest under Spurrier's 3 year watch.

Your thoughts?


get you get the number 82 from?

["14-O" U.]

I wondered where the 82 came from too. That seems like a lot.

Other than the dropping of a couple of scholarship from otherwise qualified players (I think he blamed it on admissions, but the whole situation seemed pretty underhanded to me), I always respected Spurrier. I haven't heard that many bad things about the USC program. From the article linked, it does seem that the QB in question should've burned his final bridge by now. I was wondering if there was some big event that I missed because 82 "incidents" doesn't seem right. I'll have to look up that Fullmer cup site I guess...

[Don]

I wondered where the 82 came from too. That seems like a lot.

Other than the dropping of a couple of scholarship from otherwise qualified players (I think he blamed it on admissions, but the whole situation seemed pretty underhanded to me), I always respected Spurrier. I haven't heard that many bad things about the USC program. From the article linked, it does seem that the QB in question should've burned his final bridge by now. I was wondering if there was some big event that I missed because 82 "incidents" doesn't seem right. I'll have to look up that Fullmer cup site I guess...


find no references to it except on blogs which of course immediately raises red flags in my mind.

For whatever it's worth, my impressions of Spurrier are that he doesn't put up with that stuff for long. I remember in 1997 UF was defending MNC and ranked #1 when Doug Johnson decided to miss curfew and stay out at a bar before the LSU game (underage drinking??). Johnson wasn't "caught" but when Spurrier found out he benched him for the first quarter/half of the game. When Johnson did get in he played like crap and UF lost the game. Later that year he threw the pass that sank #1 FSU in the last agem of the season. That LSU episode was just a preview of Johnson career.

[tigercpa]

get you get the number 82 from?

1 - 1/1/2000 - Kevin Rivers Dismissed academically ineligible
2 - 4/1/2000 - Dan Gawronski Dismissed Violation of team rules relating to arrest
3 - 4/1/2000 - Dan Gawronski Arrested Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest
4 - 7/1/2000 - Darion Hutcherson Suspended Fall semester by the campus Disciplinary Committee for infractions committed
5 - 7/1/2000 - O’Rondai Cox Suspended Fall semester by the campus Disciplinary Committee for infractions committed
6 - 8/1/2000 - Darion Hutcherson Dismissed Violation of team rules
7 - 8/1/2000 - O’Rondai Cox Dismissed Violation to team rules
8 - 12/1/2000 - Derek Watson Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
9 - 12/1/2000 - Derek Watson Arrested DUS 1st Offense, too fast for conditions, speeding (wrecking Ted Crawford’s car)
10 - 2/1/2001 - Derek Watson Altercation Pushed referee, no charges filed
11 - 5/1/2001 - Derek Watson Suspended 3 month suspension relating to arrest
12 - 5/1/2001 - Derek Watson Arrested Misdemeanor assault and battery
13 - 7/1/2001 - Pat Fleming Dismissed Violation of team rules (marijuana)
14 - 7/1/2001 - Jeremiah Garrison Suspended 2 games suspension relating to arrest
15 - 7/1/2001 - Jeremiah Garrison Arrested Shoplifting
16 - 8/1/2001 - Derek Watson Charged Driving under suspension, playing his car stereo too loudly.
17 - 10/1/2001 - Andrea Gause Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
18 - 10/1/2001 - Andrea Gause Arrested Assault charges from altercation with female student
19 - 1/1/2002 - Derek Watson Dismissed Violation of team rules relating to arrest
20 - 1/1/2002 - Derek Watson Arrested Possession of marijuana
21 - 2/1/2002 - Henry Taylor Arrested DUS 1st Offense
22 - 4/1/2002 - Melvin Paige Drug test Tested positive to marijuana
23 - 8/1/2002 - Derek Watson Arrested 10 days in jail for contempt of court for failure to make sufficient progress on community service work
24 - 9/1/2002 - Derek Watson Arrested Driving left of center, DUS 2nd offense, reckless driving
25 - 3/1/2003 - Thez Robinson Dismissed Violation of team rules (cocaine)
26 - 3/1/2003 - Matthew Thomas Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
27 - 3/1/2003 - Matthew Thomas Arrested Simple assault on 20 year old female
28 - 6/1/2003 - Daccus Turman Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
29 - 6/1/2003 - Daccus Turman Arrested Criminal domestic violence
30 - 6/1/2003 - Brandon Robinson Left the program Unknown
31 - 8/1/2003 - Matthew Thomas Suspended Academics
32 - 8/1/2003 - Chavez Donnings Suspended 2 game suspension from being declared ineligibility (secondary violation)
33 - 8/1/2003 - Daniel Weaver Suspended 1 game suspension from being declared ineligibility (secondary violation)
34 - 8/1/2003 - Tray Rogers Left the program Medical hardship
35 - 12/1/2003 - Jon Hall Suspended Violation of team rules
36 - 1/1/2004 - Jon Hall Dismissed Violation of team rules
37 - 1/1/2004 - Josh Johnson Left the program academically ineligible
38 - 1/1/2004 - Tremaine Tyler Suspended Relating to arrest
39 - 1/1/2004 - Tremaine Tyler Arrested Possession of marijuana
40 - 1/1/2004 - Kevin Mainord Altercation Possession of marijuana, stealing, run off from Bama from his official trip
41 - 7/1/2004 - Ty Erving Dismissed Violation of team rules (allowed back on team in 2005)
42 - 7/1/2004 - Stephen Sene Left the program academically ineligible
43 - 7/1/2004 - Derrick Harper Left the program academically ineligible
44 - 7/1/2004 - Derrick Harper Suspended Not attending classes, missing team meetings
45 - 7/1/2004 - Charlie Carpenter Suspended Violation of team rules
46 - 7/1/2004 - Moe Thompson Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
47 - 7/1/2004 - Curtis Rice Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
48 - 7/1/2004 - Ryan Brown Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
49 - 7/1/2004 - Cory Boyd Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
50 - 7/1/2004 - Syvelle Newton Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
51 - 7/1/2004 - Jamacia Jackson Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
52 - 7/1/2004 - Demetris Summers Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
53 - 8/1/2004 - Charlie Carpenter Suspended 1 game, violation of team rules
54 - 9/1/2004 - Noah Whiteside Suspended 1 game, violation of team rules (marijuana)
55 - 9/1/2004 - Travis Lee Suspended 1 game, violation of team rules (marijuana)
56 - 11/1/2004 - Moe Thompson Suspended 1 game suspension by SEC relating to Clemson brawl
57 - 11/1/2004 - Charles Silas Suspended 1 game suspension by SEC relating to Clemson brawl
58 - 11/1/2004 - Freddy Saint-Preux Suspended 1 game suspension by SEC relating to Clemson brawl
59 - 11/1/2004 - Woodly Telfort Suspended 1 game suspension by SEC relating to Clemson brawl
60 - 11/1/2004 - Jermaine Sims Suspended 1 game suspension by SEC relating to Clemson brawl
61 - 11/1/2004 - Daccus Turman, Suspended 1 game suspension by SEC relating to Clemson brawl
62 - 11/1/2004 - John Paul Gillis Altercation Civil disturbance East Quad dormitory, harassing disorderly, no charges where filed
63 - 11/1/2004 - Justin Sorensen Altercation Civil disturbance East Quad dormitory, harassing disorderly, no charges where filed
64 - 11/1/2004 - Bryan Kingrey Altercation Civil disturbance East Quad dormitory, harassing disorderly, no charges where filed
65 - 11/1/2004 - Kevin Mainord Altercation Civil disturbance East Quad dormitory, harassing disorderly, no charges where filed
66 (1) - 1/1/2005 - Demetris Summers Altercation Tossed out of IHOP for being drunk and disorderly, police were called but no charges filed
67 (2) - 1/1/2005 - Carlos Thomas Altercation Tossed out of IHOP for being drunk and disorderly, police were called but no charges filed
68 (3) - 1/1/2005 - Jarriel King Altercation Tossed out of IHOP for being drunk and disorderly, police were called but no charges filed
69 (4) - 1/1/2005 - Jonathan Hannah Altercation Tossed out of IHOP for being drunk and disorderly, police were called but no charges filed
70 (5) - 1/1/2005 - Kevin Mainord Altercation Tossed out of IHOP for being drunk and disorderly, police were called but no charges filed
71 (6) - 1/1/2005 - Syvelle Newton Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
72 (7) - 1/1/2005 - Syvelle Newton Arrested Stolen equip; petit larceny
73 (8) - 1/1/2005 - Dondrial Pinkins Arrested Stolen equip; petit larceny
74 (9) - 1/1/2005 - Freddy Saint-Preux Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
75 (10) - 1/1/2005 - Freddy Saint-Preux Arrested Stolen equip; petit larceny
76 (11) - 1/1/2005 - Rodriques Wilson Arrested Stolen equip; petit larceny
77 (12) - 1/1/2005 - Brian Brownlee Arrested Stolen equip; grand larceny
78 (13) - 1/1/2005 - Woodly Telfort Dismissed Violation of team rules relating to arrest
79 (14) - 1/1/2005 - Woodly Telfort Arrested Stolen equip; grand larceny
80 (15) - 93/1/2005 - Noah Whiteside Drug test Tested positive to marijuana
81 (16) - 3/1/2005 - Woody Telfort Dismissed Violation of team rules relating to arrest
82 (17) - 3/1/2005 - Kevin Mainord Dismissed Violation of team rules relating to arrest
83 (18) - 3/1/2005 - Kevin Mainord Arrested First-degree burglary, simple larceny
84 (19) - 3/1/2005 - Moe Thompson Dismissed Violation of team rules relating to arrest
85 (20) - 3/1/2005 - Moe Thompson Arrested First-degree burglary, simple larceny
86 (21) - 3/1/2005 - Demetris Summers Dismissed Violating athletic dept drug policy
87 (22) - 3/1/2005 - Demetris Summers Drug test Tested positive to marijuana, 2nd offense
88 (23) - 3/1/2005 - David McNeal Smith Dismissed Violation of team rules relating to arrest
89 (24) - 3/1/2005 - David McNeal Smith Arrested First-degree burglary (charged with six offenses)
90 (25) - 4/1/2005 - Syvelle Newton Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
91 (26) - 4/1/2005 - Syvelle Newton Arrested Charges later dropped, scuffle at Masonic Temple
92 (27) - 4/1/2005 - Josh Johnson Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
93 (28) - 4/1/2005 - Josh Johnson Arrested Simple possession (marijuana)
94 (29) - 4/1/2005 - Ty Erving Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
95 (30) - 4/1/2005 - Ty Erving Arrested Simple possession (marijuana)
96 (31) - 5/1/2005 - Dustin Lindsey Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
97 (32) - 5/1/2005 - Dustin Lindsey Arrested DUI
98 (33) - 5/1/2005 - Antonio Lamar Dismissed academically ineligible
99 (34) - 6/1/2005 - Cory Boyd Suspended 1 year suspension, violation of athletic department drug policy
100 (35) - 6/1/2005 - Cory Boyd Drug test Tested positive to marijuana, 3rd offense
101 (36) - 6/1/2005 - Moe Thompson Drug test Tested positive to marijuana
102 (37) - 7/1/2005 - Trent Usher Left the program Scholarship not renewed
103 (38) - 7/1/2005 - Josh Winchell Left the program Scholarship not renewed
104 (39) - 7/1/2005 - Grayson Mullins Left the program Scholarship not renewed
105 (40) - 8/1/2005 - D’Von Hill Left the program Medical hardship, scholarship not being renewed
106 (41) - 8/1/2005 - James Scott Left the program Medical hardship
107 (42) - 9/1/2005 - Cory Boyd Altercation Tire slashing, year long suspension at time of incident
108 (43) - 10/1/2005 - Josh Johnson Dismissed Violations of team rules relating to arrest
109 (44) - 10/1/2005 - Josh Johnson Arrested Simple assault, resisting arrest, disorderly conduct, interfering with police, open container
110 (45) - 11/1/2005 - Scott Morgan Suspended Violations of team rules relating to arrest
111 (46) - 11/1/2005 - Scott Morgan Arrested DUI, open container
112 (47) - 1/1/2006 - Dustin Lindsey Left the program academically ineligible
113 (48) - 3/1/2006 - Shea McKeen Suspended 3 games suspension, relating to arrest
114 (49) - 3/1/2006 - Shea McKeen Arrested Disorderly conduct, trespass after notice, failure to stop on police command
115 (50) - 3/1/2006 - Dustin Lindsey Arrested Disorderly conduct, trespass after notice, failure to stop on police command
116 (51) - 6/1/2006 - Shea McKeen Left the program Decided to give up
117 (52) - 7/1/2006 - Noah Whiteside Suspended Academics
118 (53) - 8/1/2006 - Mychal Belcher Left the program academically ineligible
119 (54) - 8/1/2006 - Ty Erving Suspended 3 games, violation of team rules
1200 (55) - 8/1/2006 - Noah Whiteside Suspended 3 games, violation of team rules
121 (56) - 8/1/2006 - Brandon Isaac Suspended 3 game suspension from being declared ineligibility (secondary violation)
122 (57) - 9/1/2006 - Blake Mitchell Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
123 (58) - 9/1/2006 - Blake Mitchell Arrested Simple assault
124 (59) - 10/1/2006 - O.J. Murdock Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest, quit team
125 (60) - 10/1/2006 - O.J. Murdock Arrested Shoplifting
126 (61) - 10/1/2006 - Kerry Bonds Dismissed Violation of team rules relating to his arrest
127 (62) - 10/1/2006 - Kerry Bonds Arrested Assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature
128 (63) - 12/1/2006 - Stanley Doughty Left the program Spurrier’s doghouse, questionable work ethic
129 (64) - 12/1/2006 - Taylor Rank Suspended Violation of teams rules (caught smoking marijuana in hotel at bowl game)
130 (64) - 12/1/2006 - Dakota Walker Suspended Violation of teams rules (caught smoking marijuana in hotel at bowl game)
131 (65) - 12/1/2006 - O.J. Murdock Transferred decided to give football another try instead of just track, transferred to USF
132 (66) - 1/1/2007 - Johnathan Joseph Arrested Possession of marijuana
133 (67) - 2/1/2007 - Stephen Garcia Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
134 (68) - 2/1/2007 - Stephen Garcia Arrested Public drunkenness, failure to stop for a police officer
135 (69) - 3/1/2007 - Justin Sorensen Altercation Lacerations on his head neck and back
136 (70) - 3/1/2007 - Aubrey McKay Left the program Decided to give up
137 (71) - 3/1/2007 - Stephen Garcia Suspended Violation of teams rules relating to arrest (not allowed to wear jersey during spring practice)
138 (72) - 3/1/2007 - Stephen Garcia Arrested Malicious injury to personal property
139 (73) ? 7/2007 Quinten Richardson arrested for marijuana possession
140 (74) ? 8/2007 Emmanual Cook arrested for possession na fire arm on campus
141 (75) - 2/2008- Dion Lecorn arrested for marijuana possession
142 (76) ? 2/2008 ? Matt Clemmons violation of team rules (with Richardson)
143 (77) - 3/2008 ? Kevin Young charged with resisting arrest and fighting while in 5 points
144 (78) - 3/2008 - Defensive back Carlos Thomas has been suspended indefinitely from the Gamecock football team for a violation of team rules and team behavior
145 (79) - 3/2008 - Walk-on defensive back Mike Newton charged with public disorderly conduct
146 (80) - 3/2008 ? QB Stephen Garcia charged with underage drinking (improperly discharging a fire extinguisher).
147 (81) - 3/2008 ? OL Heath Batchelor charged with underage drinking
148 (82) - 3/2008 ? Walk-on QB Zac Brindise charged with underage drinking

[CJHawkeyes]

131 (65) - 12/1/2006 - O.J. Murdock Transferred decided to give football another try instead of just track, transferred to USF

This qualifies as an incident?

[Coach 3]

to the concept of student athlete...which states, once they get into u. Md. to play hoops, they are ballplayers. period. hence, williams has not 1 kid graduate in the last decade from his program within 6 years of enrollment. the hoops overall div. I gradaution ra te is 46% within 6 years ( about 1/2)...williams response to this: "they make more money playing basketball in europe in their 20's than they'
d make in any regular job; so who should care"..as if being enrolled as students while playing ball for him was for 4 years was some kind of obligatory nuiscance.......

[jeff4bucks]

Gary Williams is a prick, but at least he's honest. You think other coaches out there don't feel the same way? Coaching a bunch of hoopsters who can't put two cohesive sentences together masquerading as students...
There aren't many Bob Knights out there, who actually do believe in the student/athlete concept.

[GatorGrad]

hilarious

[Don]

...#1) Where did you get this list? I am assuming from some Clemson board.
...#2) Interesting way of counting the same offense multiple times, multiple times, multiple times.
...#3) Where is the listing for other teams...say... Clemson?
...#4) Many of the "offenses" are total jokes! See *** below



***- 1/1/2000 - Kevin Rivers Dismissed academically ineligible
1 - 4/1/2000 -Dan Gawronski Arrested Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest 4/1/2000 - Dan Gawronski Dismissed Violation of team rules relating to arrest-
2 - 7/1/2000 - Darion Hutcherson Suspended Fall semester by the campus Disciplinary Committee for infractions committed 8/1/2000 - Darion Hutcherson Dismissed Violation of team rules
3 - 7/1/2000 - O’Rondai Cox Suspended Fall semester by the campus Disciplinary Committee for infractions committed- 8/1/2000 - O’Rondai Cox Dismissed Violation to team rules
4 - 12/1/2000 - Derek Watson Arrested DUS 1st Offense, too fast for conditions, speeding (wrecking Ted Crawford’s car) - 12/1/2000 - Derek Watson Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest

???- 2/1/2001 - Derek Watson Altercation Pushed referee, no charges filed
PURE BS WHY NOT COUNT PERSONAL FOULS IN GAMES???

5 - 5/1/2001 - Derek Watson Arrested Misdemeanor assault and battery - 5/1/2001 Derek Watson Suspended 3 month suspension relating to arrest
6 - 7/1/2001 - Pat Fleming Dismissed Violation of team rules (marijuana)
7 - 7/1/2001 - Jeremiah Garrison Arrested Shoplifting - 7/1/2001 - Jeremiah Garrison Suspended 2 games suspension relating to arrest
8 - 8/1/2001 - Derek Watson Charged Driving under suspension, playing his car stereo too loudly.
9 - 10/1/2001 - Andrea Gause Arrested Assault charges from altercation with female student - 10/1/2001 - Andrea Gause Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
10 - 1/1/2002 - Derek Watson Arrested Possession of marijuana - 1/1/2002 - Derek Watson Dismissed Violation of team rules relating to arrest
11 - 2/1/2002 - Henry Taylor Arrested DUS 1st Offense
12 - 4/1/2002 - Melvin Paige Drug test Tested positive to marijuana
13 - 8/1/2002 - Derek Watson Arrested 10 days in jail for contempt of court for failure to make sufficient progress on community service work
14 - 9/1/2002 - Derek Watson Arrested Driving left of center, DUS 2nd offense, reckless driving
15 - 3/1/2003 - Thez Robinson Dismissed Violation of team rules (cocaine)
16 - 3/1/2003 - Matthew Thomas Arrested Simple assault on 20 year old female - 3/1/2003 - Matthew Thomas Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
17 - 6/1/2003 - Daccus Turman Arrested Criminal domestic violence - 6/1/2003 - Daccus Turman Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
*** - 6/1/2003 - Brandon Robinson Left the program Unknown
*** - 8/1/2003 - Matthew Thomas Suspended Academics
*** - 8/1/2003 - Chavez Donnings Suspended 2 game suspension from being declared ineligibe (secondary violation)
*** - 8/1/2003 - Daniel Weaver Suspended 1 game suspension from being declared ineligibe (secondary violation)
*** - 8/1/2003 - Tray Rogers Left the program Medical hardship
18 - 12/1/2003 - Jon Hall Suspended Violation of team rules
19 - 1/1/2004 - Jon Hall Dismissed Violation of team rules (SAME RULES VIOLATION??)
*** - 1/1/2004 - Josh Johnson Left the program academically ineligible
20 - 1/1/2004 - Tremaine Tyler Arrested Possession of marijuana - 1/1/2004 - Tremaine Tyler Suspended Relating to arrest
21 - 1/1/2004 - Kevin Mainord Altercation Possession of marijuana, stealing, run off from Bama from his official trip
22 - 7/1/2004 - Ty Erving Dismissed Violation of team rules (allowed back on team in 2005)
*** - 7/1/2004 - Stephen Sene Left the program academically ineligible
*** - 7/1/2004 - Derrick Harper Left the program academically ineligible- 7/1/2004 - Derrick Harper Suspended Not attending classes, missing team meetings
23 - 7/1/2004 - Charlie Carpenter Suspended Violation of team rules
*** - 7/1/2004 - Moe Thompson Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
*** - 7/1/2004 - Curtis Rice Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
***- 7/1/2004 - Ryan Brown Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
*** - 7/1/2004 - Cory Boyd Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
*** - 7/1/2004 - Syvelle Newton Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
*** - 7/1/2004 - Jamacia Jackson Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
*** - 7/1/2004 - Demetris Summers Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
24 - 8/1/2004 - Charlie Carpenter Suspended 1 game, violation of team rules
25 - 9/1/2004 - Noah Whiteside Suspended 1 game, violation of team rules (marijuana)
26 - 9/1/2004 - Travis Lee Suspended 1 game, violation of team rules (marijuana)
27 - 11/1/2004 - Moe Thompson, Charles Silas, Freddy Saint-Preux, Woodly Telfort, Jermaine Sims, and Daccus Turman, Suspended 1 game suspension by SEC relating to Clemson brawl.

####Clemson suspended Duane Coleman, Nathan Bennett, Brandon Cannon, Anthony Waters, Roman Fry and Maurice Nelson. In addition to the suspensions, Cory Groover, Tommy Sharpe, Nick Watkins and Bobby Williamson will be handed letters of reprimand. Do these count as TEN violations by Clemson???

*** - 11/1/2004 - John Paul Gillis Altercation Civil disturbance East Quad dormitory, harassing disorderly, no charges where filed
*** - 11/1/2004 - Justin Sorensen Altercation Civil disturbance East Quad dormitory, harassing disorderly, no charges where filed
*** - 11/1/2004 - Bryan Kingrey Altercation Civil disturbance East Quad dormitory, harassing disorderly, no charges where filed
*** - 11/1/2004 - Kevin Mainord Altercation Civil disturbance East Quad dormitory, harassing disorderly, no charges where filed

I think everyone gets my point. Your first "65 offenses" can be reduced down to at most 27 offenses.
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If you intend to slam a team - don't OVERPLAY your hand. :) :eek:

[GatorGrad]

I'm actually a closet Clemson fan after my trip to Death Valley last November. They are now my 2nd favorite team, if I had to have one. However a lot of that list was a reach at best. Funny stuff.

[Don]

I'm actually a closet Clemson fan after my trip to Death Valley last November. They are now my 2nd favorite team, if I had to have one. However a lot of that list was a reach at best. Funny stuff.

types of lists one finds on fan blog/websites. That's why I hardly ever bother going to those sites - not worth the time. I prefer sites such as this one instead of "Gator" sites.

[tigercpa]

...#1) Where did you get this list? I am assuming from some Clemson board.
...#2) Interesting way of counting the same offense multiple times, multiple times, multiple times.
...#3) Where is the listing for other teams...say... Clemson?
...#4) Many of the "offenses" are total jokes! See *** below



***- 1/1/2000 - Kevin Rivers Dismissed academically ineligible
1 - 4/1/2000 -Dan Gawronski Arrested Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest 4/1/2000 - Dan Gawronski Dismissed Violation of team rules relating to arrest-
2 - 7/1/2000 - Darion Hutcherson Suspended Fall semester by the campus Disciplinary Committee for infractions committed 8/1/2000 - Darion Hutcherson Dismissed Violation of team rules
3 - 7/1/2000 - O’Rondai Cox Suspended Fall semester by the campus Disciplinary Committee for infractions committed- 8/1/2000 - O’Rondai Cox Dismissed Violation to team rules
4 - 12/1/2000 - Derek Watson Arrested DUS 1st Offense, too fast for conditions, speeding (wrecking Ted Crawford’s car) - 12/1/2000 - Derek Watson Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest

???- 2/1/2001 - Derek Watson Altercation Pushed referee, no charges filed
PURE BS WHY NOT COUNT PERSONAL FOULS IN GAMES???

5 - 5/1/2001 - Derek Watson Arrested Misdemeanor assault and battery - 5/1/2001 Derek Watson Suspended 3 month suspension relating to arrest
6 - 7/1/2001 - Pat Fleming Dismissed Violation of team rules (marijuana)
7 - 7/1/2001 - Jeremiah Garrison Arrested Shoplifting - 7/1/2001 - Jeremiah Garrison Suspended 2 games suspension relating to arrest
8 - 8/1/2001 - Derek Watson Charged Driving under suspension, playing his car stereo too loudly.
9 - 10/1/2001 - Andrea Gause Arrested Assault charges from altercation with female student - 10/1/2001 - Andrea Gause Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
10 - 1/1/2002 - Derek Watson Arrested Possession of marijuana - 1/1/2002 - Derek Watson Dismissed Violation of team rules relating to arrest
11 - 2/1/2002 - Henry Taylor Arrested DUS 1st Offense
12 - 4/1/2002 - Melvin Paige Drug test Tested positive to marijuana
13 - 8/1/2002 - Derek Watson Arrested 10 days in jail for contempt of court for failure to make sufficient progress on community service work
14 - 9/1/2002 - Derek Watson Arrested Driving left of center, DUS 2nd offense, reckless driving
15 - 3/1/2003 - Thez Robinson Dismissed Violation of team rules (cocaine)
16 - 3/1/2003 - Matthew Thomas Arrested Simple assault on 20 year old female - 3/1/2003 - Matthew Thomas Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
17 - 6/1/2003 - Daccus Turman Arrested Criminal domestic violence - 6/1/2003 - Daccus Turman Suspended Violation of team rules relating to arrest
*** - 6/1/2003 - Brandon Robinson Left the program Unknown
*** - 8/1/2003 - Matthew Thomas Suspended Academics
*** - 8/1/2003 - Chavez Donnings Suspended 2 game suspension from being declared ineligibe (secondary violation)
*** - 8/1/2003 - Daniel Weaver Suspended 1 game suspension from being declared ineligibe (secondary violation)
*** - 8/1/2003 - Tray Rogers Left the program Medical hardship
18 - 12/1/2003 - Jon Hall Suspended Violation of team rules
19 - 1/1/2004 - Jon Hall Dismissed Violation of team rules (SAME RULES VIOLATION??)
*** - 1/1/2004 - Josh Johnson Left the program academically ineligible
20 - 1/1/2004 - Tremaine Tyler Arrested Possession of marijuana - 1/1/2004 - Tremaine Tyler Suspended Relating to arrest
21 - 1/1/2004 - Kevin Mainord Altercation Possession of marijuana, stealing, run off from Bama from his official trip
22 - 7/1/2004 - Ty Erving Dismissed Violation of team rules (allowed back on team in 2005)
*** - 7/1/2004 - Stephen Sene Left the program academically ineligible
*** - 7/1/2004 - Derrick Harper Left the program academically ineligible- 7/1/2004 - Derrick Harper Suspended Not attending classes, missing team meetings
23 - 7/1/2004 - Charlie Carpenter Suspended Violation of team rules
*** - 7/1/2004 - Moe Thompson Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
*** - 7/1/2004 - Curtis Rice Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
***- 7/1/2004 - Ryan Brown Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
*** - 7/1/2004 - Cory Boyd Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
*** - 7/1/2004 - Syvelle Newton Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
*** - 7/1/2004 - Jamacia Jackson Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
*** - 7/1/2004 - Demetris Summers Suspended Lost funding for the second session of summer school, relating to voluntary workouts
24 - 8/1/2004 - Charlie Carpenter Suspended 1 game, violation of team rules
25 - 9/1/2004 - Noah Whiteside Suspended 1 game, violation of team rules (marijuana)
26 - 9/1/2004 - Travis Lee Suspended 1 game, violation of team rules (marijuana)
27 - 11/1/2004 - Moe Thompson, Charles Silas, Freddy Saint-Preux, Woodly Telfort, Jermaine Sims, and Daccus Turman, Suspended 1 game suspension by SEC relating to Clemson brawl.

####Clemson suspended Duane Coleman, Nathan Bennett, Brandon Cannon, Anthony Waters, Roman Fry and Maurice Nelson. In addition to the suspensions, Cory Groover, Tommy Sharpe, Nick Watkins and Bobby Williamson will be handed letters of reprimand. Do these count as TEN violations by Clemson???

*** - 11/1/2004 - John Paul Gillis Altercation Civil disturbance East Quad dormitory, harassing disorderly, no charges where filed
*** - 11/1/2004 - Justin Sorensen Altercation Civil disturbance East Quad dormitory, harassing disorderly, no charges where filed
*** - 11/1/2004 - Bryan Kingrey Altercation Civil disturbance East Quad dormitory, harassing disorderly, no charges where filed
*** - 11/1/2004 - Kevin Mainord Altercation Civil disturbance East Quad dormitory, harassing disorderly, no charges where filed

I think everyone gets my point. Your first "65 offenses" can be reduced down to at most 27 offenses.
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If you intend to slam a team - don't OVERPLAY your hand. :) :eek:


Don,

Thanks for digging in the minutiae of this lighthearted post.

[Don]

Don,

Thanks for digging in the minutiae of this lighthearted post.

I always like to pound things into the ground whenever possible. Good to see you don't put much stock in it even though the folks on that blog don't seem to take the list lightly. :)